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Post by JustaWhistleStop on Jun 10, 2024 15:17:36 GMT
Zen study doesn't oblige us to read text, even though it is helpful. Zen can be accessed through our environment, the people we meet, our experiences, but most importantly through our receptiveness to the Dharma, which itself can have infinite meanings.
Before saying the above words, Yuanwu said this:
It's difficult for most of us to find a real Zen teacher. We rely on forums such as this one to share what little, or much, we know with each other. Often, I find that what I read from each of you here, as well as on other sites I've participated in, to be what "resonated with the music of gold and jade".
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Post by White Lotus on Jun 10, 2024 23:51:16 GMT
Nice topic, thank you for sharing! Words cannot fairly express how awesome it has been to learn so much in the past few years with you all. I appreciate you all so much.
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Post by lcl1qp1 on Jun 11, 2024 2:26:22 GMT
Zen study doesn't oblige us to read text, even though it is helpful. Zen can be accessed through our environment, the people we meet, our experiences, but most importantly through our receptiveness to the Dharma, which itself can have infinite meanings. Nicely said. I've enjoyed reading your insights! Being open to the environment in the midst of activity can be meditative, IMHO. My definition of meditation is fairly broad. Tangentially related, what are your thoughts on objects of meditation? Is it important to have an object? For me, objectless is more natural, but singular focus may have other benefits in terms of shamatha and states of absorption.
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Post by JustaWhistleStop on Jun 11, 2024 3:00:19 GMT
I've never used objects when I meditate, although I do use focus. I have a little cheat, though. You can call it OCD, or maybe it's just a compulsion, but I have a constant earworm that plays music all day. It can be any song, something I just heard, or a song that is evoked by a memory. My focus is to stop that music. Maybe you could call that my object. When I hold this concentration long enough, I start to get small colorful nimitta. So, it's progress that makes me feel like I'm going in the right direction.
Lately, I've been working on the concept of the "limitless space" that Buddha mentions as one of the jhana states.
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Post by lcl1qp1 on Jun 11, 2024 3:43:13 GMT
Lately, I've been working on the concept of the "limitless space" that Buddha mentions as one of the jhana states. Interesting... sounds similar to my experience of visual phenomena that arise during practice. The 'limitless space' concept seems useful! Let me know how it goes.
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Post by JustaWhistleStop on Jun 11, 2024 16:32:35 GMT
Interesting... sounds similar to my experience of visual phenomena that arise during practice. The 'limitless space' concept seems useful! Let me know how it goes. I was never sure about "visual phenomena", but you might be right. It sounds like the same thing. I've heard one Theravada bhikkhu (Ajahn Lee, I think) say that he saw his thoughts like a movie screen while he meditated. I'm trying to build the nimitta to be at least that large. Can you imagine what that would be like? What are your visual phenomena like? Maybe we can compare notes.
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Post by lcl1qp1 on Jun 11, 2024 23:21:55 GMT
Interesting... sounds similar to my experience of visual phenomena that arise during practice. The 'limitless space' concept seems useful! Let me know how it goes. I was never sure about "visual phenomena", but you might be right. It sounds like the same thing. I've heard one Theravada bhikkhu (Ajahn Lee, I think) say that he saw his thoughts like a movie screen while he meditated. I'm trying to build the nimitta to be at least that large. Can you imagine what that would be like? What are your visual phenomena like? Maybe we can compare notes. It's interesting the variety of explanations you find across different traditions when it comes to visual phenomena. One that predictably arises for me when the mind is calm looks a bit like luminous smoke, or wispy clouds moving through the air of the room. Or sheer white muslin blowing in wind.
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