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Post by lcl1qp1 on Jun 12, 2024 2:42:43 GMT
Dzogchen at its core is similar to Zen, so I thought I'd post an important section from a historic Tibetan master, Longchenpa. This passage is from one of his most famous works, "Finding Rest in the Nature of Mind"
Chapter 10, Sections 1 - 10:
1. The practitioner who thus unites The generation and perfection stages Gains entry to the unborn, empty nature of phenomena.
2. Now all phenomenal existence, All the things of both saṃsāra and nirvāṇa, Are from the outset without self And are beyond conceptual construction. Through ignorantly clinging to them, Beings wander in existence. Saṃsāra and nirvāṇa, various joys and sorrows, Do indeed occur. Yet in the very moment of arising, They are empty in their nature. Know that they are like illusions. Know they are like dreams.
3. Though all the things appearing outwardly Occur within the mind, they are not the mind itself, But neither are they something other than the mind. Although by force of habit there may seem to be Duality of apprehender-apprehended, In the moment it occurs, This duality has no reality. It is like a face and its reflection in a mirror.
4. Although a face appears upon the surface of the mirror, It is not there. And yet no other thing Has cast its form upon the glass. While not being there, its likeness there appears And is perceived as different from the mirror. Know that manifold phenomena are all like this.
5. If left unexamined, things are quite convincing, But when they are investigated, they become elusive. When thoroughly examined, they transcend All speech, all thought, all formulation. Whether as existing or as not existing, There’s no finding them. Neither are they beyond, nor are they not beyond, The ontological extremes.
6. It is in the manner of illusion That their arising and their dwelling And their ceasing all appear. But from the very instant they occur, This same arising and the rest have no intrinsic being. They are like the water of a mirage Or the moon reflected in a pool.
7. In particular, the six impure migrations Appear but have no true existence. They are deceptive forms, the products of habitual tendencies, Like falling hairs that those with visual ailments see. And just as those who wish to be restored Must purify their phlegm, In just the same way, those who wish to dissipate illusion Must clear away the cataracts of ignorance.
8. The antidote for this is self-cognizing primal wisdom. By this means you come to clear conviction Of the empty nature of saṃsāra and its habits. And you know with certainty That what is empty does appear. You understand the nonduality Of appearance and emptiness, And thus you know the sense of the two truths. By dispelling both extremes and striving for the middle way, You come to freedom in the sky-like state, Abiding neither in existence nor in peace. This is ultimate reality sublime and quintessential: The fundamental nature of the Natural Great Perfection.
9. Appearance in itself does neither good nor harm, But clinging to appearance binds you in existence. Thus there is no need to search through manifold appearances. Just cut the root of mind that clings to them.
10. The mind does seem to be and yet lacks real existence. When searched for, it’s not found; When looked for, it’s not seen. No color does it have, no shape; it cannot be identified. Not outside or within; throughout the triple time, It is not born, it does not cease. And it is not located anywhere on this side or on that. Groundless, rootless, it is not a thing. There is no pointing to it: mind is inconceivable.
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Post by JustaWhistleStop on Jun 12, 2024 16:33:47 GMT
Dzogchen at its core is similar to Zen, so I thought I'd post an important section from a historic Tibetan master, Lonchempa. This passage is from one of his most famous works, " Finding Rest in the Nature of Mind" "at the fundamental level, there are no worlds and no beings. It is because of delusion that there is coming into being" - Surangama Sutra I found this quote from the Sutra cleared up a few things that confused me about samsara and rebirth. How is it that we live in a world of solid matter, when it's illusory? I suppose in a fundamentally profound way, we are emersed in a grand illusion, created by a collective consciousness. Still difficult to wrap my head around it but, there it is! This passage helps make Buddha's concept of the face and the mirror less complicated. Is this the realm of limitless space you and I were talking about just recently? We were talking about visual phenomena and nimitta. The mind is not a thing. It sounds so obvious, yet we in the West, often associate the mind with the the brain, and even more specifically, the frontal lobe. But thought is a transparent thing. I think, therefore I am, should be more like, I think therefore I become—we manifest ourselves as a solid entity, when we are really a no-thing. Emptiness. Thanks for sharing this. It's helped me understand a bit more about Dzogchen. I mentioned to SagaciousSimian that Tibetan Buddhism is the one limb on the tree that I've had the most difficulty understanding
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Post by lcl1qp1 on Jun 13, 2024 4:27:28 GMT
Thanks for the sutra quote! Like that one.
"This passage helps make Buddha's concept of the face and the mirror less complicated."As someone with a background in physics, I always overthink the mirror! "Is this the realm of limitless space you and I were talking about just recently?Not sure. I think it's interesting to consider the role/function of space as an object of concentration. "I think, therefore I am, should be more like, I think therefore I become—we manifest ourselves as a solid entity, when we are really a no-thing. Emptiness."
Like it! Thoughts seem to reinforce and expand differentiation.
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Post by svatahsiddha on Jun 13, 2024 16:27:10 GMT
Longchenpa is really good, isn't he? The Tibetan tradition is so wonderful! The buddhadharma is cohesive. It seems to me, like blind men examining an elephant, we really shouldn't settle for a view where it doesn't all agree if we want to understand what's being said properly. Another beautiful source from the Tibetan tradition is Dolpopa. Aspiration Prayer of the Ultimate Definitive Meaning by Kunkhyen Dolpopa Sherab Gyaltsen
Oṃ! Let there be auspiciousness!
In all my lifetimes, may the three trainings, the three precepts, and all my tantric commitments be completely pure without blemishes!
May my bodily postures, yogic gaze, and all of the extremely fine vital winds and mind internally cease, naturally cease, perpetually cease, and greatly cease!
May the entirety of ordinary awareness swiftly cease so that all beings may benefit from swiftly realizing pristine awareness!
May ordinary awareness as the universal ground swiftly cease so that the great bliss which is pristine awareness as the universal ground magnificently pervading space is swiftly realized!
May the pristine awareness which arises extrinsically swiftly come about so that the naturally manifesting pristine awareness magnificently pervading space is swiftly realized!
May all conceptual imputations swiftly cease so that all beings may benefit from swiftly realizing what is perfectly established!
May all incidental obscurations swiftly cease so that beings as vast as space may benefit from swiftly realizing their enlightened essence!
May all external and internal obscurations swiftly cease so that passing beyond into the other supreme state of a primordial Buddha is swiftly realized!
May all enduring defilements totally cease so that all beings may benefit from realizing every quality of the Middle Way!
May all defiled incidental phenomena swiftly cease so that the genuine nature of phenomena which is great bliss beyond enumeration is realized!
May all defilements of discursive thinking totally cease so that the Great Seal of non-discursive pristine awareness is swiftly realized!
May attachment to transference of the vital winds and mind totally cease so that the great bliss of the un-subsiding Great Seal is swiftly realized!
May Buddhahood which resides from the very beginning beyond enumeration as the qualities of the ultimate dimension of reality be swiftly realized for the final benefit of oneself!
May the marvelous qualities of the tangible dimension of relative reality completely come about in order to benefit beings as vast as space!
This "Aspiration Prayer of the Ultimate Definitive Meaning" was arranged and taught by the one endowed with the four kinds of reliance (Kunkhyen Dolpopa Sherab Gyaltsen) for the benefit of beings.
| Translated by Michael R. Sheehy (Ngedon Tenzin Dargyay) at Drepung Stupa, India (01/16/06) under the guidance of Khenpo Kunga Sherab Saljay.
www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-masters/dolpopa-sherab-gyaltsen/aspiration-of-ultimate-definitive-meaning
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Post by lcl1qp1 on Jun 14, 2024 3:16:08 GMT
Another beautiful source from the Tibetan tradition is Dolpopa. Aspiration Prayer of the Ultimate Definitive Meaning by Kunkhyen Dolpopa Sherab Gyaltsen
Yes that's quite a beautiful prayer. Thanks for sharing
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